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I've used it to, uh, like the section where it has a part for
each chapter--I'd just click on that, and I'd just do those problems,
but I wouldn't print it, I'd just write it on paper. And that helped
me a lot, that was awesome 'cause I mean yeah, there's a lot of
material in the book but there aren't that many problems to actually
do, so that helped me a lot. (Me: Are there any ways you can think of
to improve the site? Some people were suggesting lists of concepts,
etc . . . ) I don't think that would be that big of a deal because
it's pretty much in the book--I mean, if it's . . . maybe . . . but
I thought that the fact that there were actually problems that you
could work out was helpful. The answers were right there too, weren't
they? Yeah, that was great. That was better than the graded exams--I
mean the old exams on the chem 32 website because, you know, I would
click on ungraded exam--I mean unanswered exam and then I flip back
to the answered exam--yours was just so much more convenient.
- I downloaded some of the problems . . . oh you mean the chem
website or . . . I only went to the chemweb.stanford.edu one. What is
the other one?
- Oh, you're "Kalee"? I've always been meaning to use it but I
haven't gotten to it but I have a friend who has used it and said it
was really good . . . (the former student's partner) I wasn't there
the first day of class. I was also just using the old exams from the
chemweb site . . .
- Oh is that the one with the kaleeg . . .? I've always been
meaning to go there but haven't yet. Yeah, I've used it. I thought
it was pretty helpful, yes . . . but--I don't know--some of the
questions were just from old tests, right? (Me: A lot of them were.
Some of them were new but most of them were just old exam questions.)
Some new ones would be better--we already have access to the old
exams--but it does explain things a lot better than they do.
- I think it was helpful, like, having the problems there to
work out, because they were all grouped into, like, areas and topics,
because the one on the Chemweb--sometimes you have downloading
problems, which makes it hard. (Me: Is there anything I could add or
change to make it better?) Sometimes the explanations lacked a
little bit of detail, like, it just went straight to the answer
instead of talking about the concepts.
- Yeah, they've definitely been helpful. Especially in studying
for the midterms. (Me: Is there anything I could add or change to
make it more helpful?) Not really, because it's really nice to have
the problems and solutions. Like explanations are good and stuff like
that. (Me: Do you usually print stuff out or work online?) Well, when
I tried to print stuff out from it--I don't know if there's something
wrong with my computer or what, but I couldn't get the actual
structures to print out . . . it was like I just got the text . . .
so usually I just work straight from the computer.
- I lost the url--could you write it down for me?
- I've used the ChemWeb one. (Partner says "me too.")
- Oh, I sent you an email! I asked a question about the
six-fold symmetry of Co(en)3 before the first exam--you wrote back
with the answer. (Me: Oh, right! Well, I guess you've used it then .
. . do you have any suggestions for how the information could be
better presented?) Oh, okay . . . yeah . . . how about also the past
papers in the webpage . . . you've taken by subject and put
everything by subject, but how about by exam, like the 1998 exam on
the ChemWeb website. I like having both formats. It would be nice if
they were on the same page; it would be much more convenient. Have
you used the Math 51 page? It has a really good format . . . you can
get all the answers and print out the whole page and don't have to
click back and forth. (Me: Do you tend to print stuff out a lot?)
Yes, a lot.
- I thought it was really really really good and like it helped
me a lot. Just 'cause, I felt like, you know I felt like I wasn't
understanding the basic parts of it. (Partner hadn't heard of the
site and requests the url.)
- I don't think I've actually visited that one . . . is there a
link to it from Chemweb? That's where you should put it.
- It's a great site--yeah I loved it. It's been really
helpful--it's got, like, old tests and stuff. (Partner hasn't heard
of it though.) Our TA Kallie said it was a good site.
- Oh are you kaleeg?! I'm the one who put the comment! Yeah,
it's great--I like it! It helped me get an A on the chem 32 test so .
. . I love it! Directly after the test, we went into NMR. It was
after NMR, like coordination chem. That one's not in the same format
as the other sections yet. That format's definitely good because then
you can't, like, scroll down like 'okay, what do I do to solve this?'
I like how you summarize in your own words (you did NMR didn't you?)
. . . I also liked those additional readings--they were very helpful.
(Me: Do you tend to print stuff out or work online?) I tend to do
everything online. I would print out, like if there was a whole test
. . . I would print it out. (person in another lab group calls across
the benches: I think if I wasn't a college student who has to pay for
paper I would print stuff out a lot more!!) Also, if there's a test
format, like in the chemweb website there are whole tests with room
to work and stuff.
- I've looked at it just once. I went but it wasn't
specifically for the test. I did the problems on the symmetry. The
good examples were the ones that were, like the symmetry elements
that weren't just straightforward molecules--like there was one that
was a pencil, and a baseball . . .
- I actually haven't looked at it yet (neither has partner).
- Oh, yeah. I looked at it a while back when I was studying for
exam 1.
- I used the Chemweb one. Where is the other one?
(partner=same)
- It's good! I went on it before the midterm and did all the
practice problems and it helped a lot. It really helped me! Because
the answers didn't correspond to the test sometimes, you know, on the
official page, so this one was better. New features . . . I like how
you can go to the interactive stuff . . . I played with it for hours.
They really got me off track--but that's fine, that's cool. I really
can't think of anything new features . . .
- I've never been to that site. I think I've seen it briefly,
like, my friend was using it to study . . . but I've never seen it
myself. Yeah, I'll probably end up using it for this midterm.
(partner professes not to know it existed and asks that chemweb link
to it)
- It's your website! Oh, I use it all the time! It's so
awesome! Wow. New features . . . let's see . . . I can't think of
anything really, it's just really good. (Me: Do you tend to print
stuff out?) Yes. I print out everything. I usually just go right to
the solutions, because, like, it helps when the questions are
reworded in the solutions, like I just read the question again and
look at the answer. Because a lot of times I just have really no idea
what to do so I just go straight to the solution.
- I think what was helpful for me was reading the text part
because the course reader pretty much doesn't explain anything, it
just has like the diagrams without the explanations behind it. But
when I read through the text on your site, it really helps me know
what I'm doing, what I'm actually calculating . . . so that helps a
lot. And the practice problems of course, the more problems the
better. (Me: Do you tend to print stuff out?) Both. If it's really
long I'll just print it out but for the shorter stuff I just read it
online. (Me: Do you have your own printer?) Yes.
- The Virtual Manual thing? Yeah. It's pretty good the way it
is . . .
- I like how it's organized by category. That was nice. The
sample problems are really helpful right before the test. (Me: Do you
tend to print stuff out?) I usually work on scratch paper and look at
it on the screen. (Me: Do you have your own printer?) Yeah.
- Yeah, I've used it. Not recently though. I used it for the
first exam. You know how you have one section with all the questions,
and another with all the answers? If they could be, like, more
accessible at once so you can check your work as you go that would be
good. Having them all together would be a bad idea because once you
solve the questions you just look at the answers. (I think this
student thought I was talking about the Chemweb site . . . the
features he describes as frustrating were the ones I redesigned!)
(Partner hasn't used it; he says he plans to for the next one.)
- I haven't yet used it. (partner hasn't heard of it)
- I haven't seen it. Where is it?
- Thank you so much! The only thing I thought was first like an
index of terms and their definitions and second, like, nomenclature.
Because nomenclature was one thing I had to find out about for
myself. This is a very useful site. (Me: Do you tend to print stuff
out or read it online?) No, I don't even have a computer. I use the
computers in the libraries. Like, if I want to do a [ChemWeb] test,
I'll print stuff out, but to do problems, I just do them online.
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